Pythagoreans

" For he too supposes two souls in us, like the Pythagoreans, about whom we shall consider later.

For this reason, they say, the Pythagoreans too abstained from sexual relations.

Does not Heraclitus too call generation death, in agreement with Pythagoras and the Socrates of the Gorgias, when he says:

Again, error is multiform (for evil is a form of the unlimited, as in the old Pythagorean imagery, and good of the limited), whereas success is possible in one way only (which is why it is easy to fail and difficult to succeed—easy to miss the target and difficult to hit it);

The view is also held by some that simple Reciprocity is Justice.

The Pythagoreans seem to give a more probable doctrine on the subject of the Good when they place Unity in their column of goods;

who, having come into Italy in the reign of Tarquinius Superbus, held that Great Greece in his grip both by his teaching and by his authority, and for many ages thereafter the name of the Pythagoreans so flourished that no others seemed learned.

they say that Plato came into Italy to acquaint himself with the Pythagoreans, and learned all things Pythagorean, and was the first not only to hold the same view as Pythagoras concerning the eternity of souls, but also to bring forward a reason for it.

For who is there who would think, when Greece flourished in Italy with its most powerful and greatest cities — that which was called Magna Graecia — and when in these, first the name of Pythagoras himself, then afterward that of the Pythagoreans, was so great, that the ears of our countrymen were closed to their most learned utterances?

For not even the Pythagoreans honoured the tetrad so much as those who now collect the public revenues honour the quadruple.

The Pythagoreans wish all things to proceed from numbers and the first principles of the mathematicians.

Aristotle teaches that the poet Orpheus never existed, and the Pythagoreans say that this Orphic poem was the work of a certain Cercon;

that after those celebrated Pythagoreans, whose school had in a manner died out — though for several ages it had flourished in Italy and Sicily — it was he who arose to renew it.

The Pythagoreans maintain that justice lies in proportioning the punishment to the offence:

The Pythagoreans bid us look up to the heavens at dawn, that we may be reminded of those bodies which forever, in the same way and after the same fashion, accomplish their own work;

and these are in some sort kindred sciences, as the Pythagoreans affirm and we admit, do we not, Glaucon?

Come now, let the Pythagoreans learn, let the Stoics acknowledge, let Plato himself learn, whence Matter—which they will have to be unborn—drew both its origin and substance for all this fabric of the world;

presumption, as when the Pythagoreans, on this account too, reject the bean, a burdensome and flatulent food.