Renown
“fama and gloria distinguished”
idea · 5 works · 25 mentions · 47 anchored passages
kleos · glory · fame · renown · honor · report · creditable · emulation · great glory · honor and glory
spoken of as
2 expressionskleos“rumor/fame”23 mentions
Odyssey (Greek) · Iliad (Greek) · Against Androtion (Greek) · On the Peace (Greek)
Phemios shall then strike up a dance tune on his lyre, so that if people outside hear, or any of the neighbors, or some one going along the street happens to notice it, they may think there is a wedding in the house, and no rumors [ kleos] about the death of the suitors will get about in the town, before we can escape to the woods upon my own land.
Glory“kleos”1 mention
Iliad (Greek)
For he was as one possessed, and was thirsting after glory.
in the texts
Odyssey
Kleos, rumor or report, is the concern Odysseus seeks to suppress with the wedding-dance ruse.
Phemios shall then strike up a dance tune on his lyre, so that if people outside hear, or any of the neighbors, or some one going along the street happens to notice it, they may think there is a wedding in the house, and no rumors [ kleos] about the death of the suitors will get about in the town, before we can escape to the woods upon my own land.
Athena answered, "Never mind about him, I sent him that he might be well spoken [ kleos] of for having gone.
Stay with him and find out how things are going, while I proceed to Sparta and see your son, who is with Menelaos at Lacedaemon, where he has gone to try and find a report [ kleos] on whether you are still alive.
Iliad
The heroic pursuit of glory, named directly as the motive driving Achilles' relentless pursuit of the Trojans.
For he was as one possessed, and was thirsting after glory.
it is of no use to you, for you can never again wear it, and thus you will have glory [ kleos] among the Trojans both men and women.
you have robbed me of great glory and have saved the Trojans at no risk to yourself, for you have nothing to fear, but I would indeed have my revenge if it were in my power to do so.
Against Androtion
The public value that crowns, achievements, and monuments preserve for Athens.
They were tokens of emulation and honorable ambition;
They have deprived the donors of a great honor,—the credit of gratitude for benefits received.
once they possessed greater wealth than any other Hellenic people, but they spent it all for love of honor;
On the Peace
The public reputation and moral standing of Athens and other powers.
No, I think we ought so to act as to do nothing unworthy of Athens and yet avoid war;
Led on by these false hopes and cajoleries, you abandoned the Phocians against your own interests and against justice and honor.
Hence today the Thebans have been partially successful in recovering territory, but have failed lamentably to win honor and glory;
Letters to Lucilius
The Stoic-debated question of whether posthumous good repute is a genuine good, and how renown differs from fame and glory.
Next, does renown require many votes?
For glory or fame the opinion of one is not enough.
the governing principle of one good ought to be one.