Renown
“fama and gloria distinguished”
idea · 5 works · 25 mentions · 47 anchored passages
kleos · glory · fame · renown · honor · report · creditable · emulation · great glory · honor and glory
spoken of as
2 expressionskleos“rumor/fame”23 mentions
Odyssey (Greek) · Iliad (Greek) · Against Androtion (Greek) · On the Peace (Greek)
Phemios shall then strike up a dance tune on his lyre, so that if people outside hear, or any of the neighbors, or some one going along the street happens to notice it, they may think there is a wedding in the house, and no rumors [ kleos] about the death of the suitors will get about in the town, before we can escape to the woods upon my own land.
in the texts
Odyssey
Kleos, rumor or report, is the concern Odysseus seeks to suppress with the wedding-dance ruse.
Phemios shall then strike up a dance tune on his lyre, so that if people outside hear, or any of the neighbors, or some one going along the street happens to notice it, they may think there is a wedding in the house, and no rumors [ kleos] about the death of the suitors will get about in the town, before we can escape to the woods upon my own land.
Stay with him and find out how things are going, while I proceed to Sparta and see your son, who is with Menelaos at Lacedaemon, where he has gone to try and find a report [ kleos] on whether you are still alive.
Athena answered, "Never mind about him, I sent him that he might be well spoken [ kleos] of for having gone.
Iliad
The heroic pursuit of glory, named directly as the motive driving Achilles' relentless pursuit of the Trojans.
For he was as one possessed, and was thirsting after glory.
it is of no use to you, for you can never again wear it, and thus you will have glory [ kleos] among the Trojans both men and women.
you have robbed me of great glory and have saved the Trojans at no risk to yourself, for you have nothing to fear, but I would indeed have my revenge if it were in my power to do so.
Against Androtion
The public value that crowns, achievements, and monuments preserve for Athens.
once they possessed greater wealth than any other Hellenic people, but they spent it all for love of honor;
that drinking-cups and censers, if very numerous, attach to their owners a sort of reputation for wealth, but that, if a man takes pride in trifles, instead of winning some honor by them, he is disdained as a man of vulgar tastes.
They have deprived the donors of a great honor,—the credit of gratitude for benefits received.
On the Peace
The public reputation and moral standing of Athens and other powers.
Hence today the Thebans have been partially successful in recovering territory, but have failed lamentably to win honor and glory;
For in the first place, Athenians, when it was proposed to take advantage of the unrest in Euboea and side with Plutarchus in a war that would bring us more expense than glory, I was the first and indeed the only speaker to oppose it, and I narrowly escaped being torn to pieces by those who induced you for trifling gains to commit many serious errors.
No, I think we ought so to act as to do nothing unworthy of Athens and yet avoid war;
Letters to Lucilius
The Stoic-debated question of whether posthumous good repute is a genuine good, and how renown differs from fame and glory.
For just as fame is not the talk of one man, nor ill-fame the bad estimate of one, so neither is renown the having pleased one good man.
Your first letter denies that I have unfolded the whole question, in which I was trying to prove what our school holds, that the renown which falls to a man after death is a good.
" When they say that renown is praise rendered by the good to the good, they do not refer to the voice, but to the judgement.